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	<title>Comments on: When Dell Usability Engineering Goes Horribly Wrong</title>
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		<title>By: Nick Dixon</title>
		<link>http://www.coderjournal.com/2008/05/when-dell-usability-engineering-goes-horrible-wrong/#comment-13266</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick Dixon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 09:58:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, a true UK keyboard layout would look like this:
http://digitalconsumption.com/userfiles/1_img_4346_F_WOI1acTxzsc05S.jpg

We usually have a narrow left-shift key (even on laptops sometimes), which makes room for the backslash key to the bottom-left of "A".

For some reason though, most laptop manufacturers prefer to keep the wide left-shift of US layouts, even for a UK keyboard, and then just move the backslash/pipe key somewhere else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, a true UK keyboard layout would look like this:<br />
<a href="http://digitalconsumption.com/userfiles/1_img_4346_F_WOI1acTxzsc05S.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://digitalconsumption.com/userfiles/1_img_4346_F_WOI1acTxzsc05S.jpg</a></p>
<p>We usually have a narrow left-shift key (even on laptops sometimes), which makes room for the backslash key to the bottom-left of &#8220;A&#8221;.</p>
<p>For some reason though, most laptop manufacturers prefer to keep the wide left-shift of US layouts, even for a UK keyboard, and then just move the backslash/pipe key somewhere else.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
		<link>http://www.coderjournal.com/2008/05/when-dell-usability-engineering-goes-horrible-wrong/#comment-6469</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 19:29:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Nick,

I'm a developer in the UK and I can confirm that both my Dell laptop and desktop workstation have the
backslash bottom-left, next to the Z key. I'm not suggesting that this is a good thing or anything- 
it's just something that we've been forced to get used to in the UK  :-s

The crazy thing for a developer is that Apple UK keyboards have the backslash above the right shift,
and they @ symbol is swapped with the " key (compared to UK PC keyboards)... This is a pain for
developers switching between the two - don't even ask about #.

Perhaps Claus was a little unnecessarily short with you.

-- Scott</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Nick,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a developer in the UK and I can confirm that both my Dell laptop and desktop workstation have the<br />
backslash bottom-left, next to the Z key. I&#8217;m not suggesting that this is a good thing or anything-<br />
it&#8217;s just something that we&#8217;ve been forced to get used to in the UK  :-s</p>
<p>The crazy thing for a developer is that Apple UK keyboards have the backslash above the right shift,<br />
and they @ symbol is swapped with the &#8221; key (compared to UK PC keyboards)&#8230; This is a pain for<br />
developers switching between the two - don&#8217;t even ask about #.</p>
<p>Perhaps Claus was a little unnecessarily short with you.</p>
<p>&#8211; Scott</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Berardi</title>
		<link>http://www.coderjournal.com/2008/05/when-dell-usability-engineering-goes-horrible-wrong/#comment-4592</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick Berardi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 12:58:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Claus,

As you will notice the "Alt Gr" key is still on that keyboard, it just replaces the right ALT key on all non-US keyboards.  So again I assert, why did they move the backslash key on the keyboard and change the international standard for the QWERTY keyboard layout.  The issue here is that Z key is under the S and D instead of the standardized A and S keys, check out all the keyboard layouts for your self: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keyboard_layout

And it is pretty offensive to me that you assume that I know nothing about the international keyboard layouts, it is very narrow minded of you and you should be ashamed of yourself.  I have many friends through out Europe and we constantly talk about the different perceptions of Europe vs. the US.  And your narrow minded rants seem to justify how Americans feel about Europeans.  Congratulations on being a stereotype.  

Personally I like the extra room on the bottom row and the bigger shift key, and the enter key on the US keyboards is very comfortable, even though it is smaller.  Plus for touch typists it maps well to DVORAK.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Claus,</p>
<p>As you will notice the &#8220;Alt Gr&#8221; key is still on that keyboard, it just replaces the right ALT key on all non-US keyboards.  So again I assert, why did they move the backslash key on the keyboard and change the international standard for the QWERTY keyboard layout.  The issue here is that Z key is under the S and D instead of the standardized A and S keys, check out all the keyboard layouts for your self: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keyboard_layout" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keyboard_layout</a></p>
<p>And it is pretty offensive to me that you assume that I know nothing about the international keyboard layouts, it is very narrow minded of you and you should be ashamed of yourself.  I have many friends through out Europe and we constantly talk about the different perceptions of Europe vs. the US.  And your narrow minded rants seem to justify how Americans feel about Europeans.  Congratulations on being a stereotype.  </p>
<p>Personally I like the extra room on the bottom row and the bigger shift key, and the enter key on the US keyboards is very comfortable, even though it is smaller.  Plus for touch typists it maps well to DVORAK.</p>
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		<title>By: Claus</title>
		<link>http://www.coderjournal.com/2008/05/when-dell-usability-engineering-goes-horrible-wrong/#comment-4555</link>
		<dc:creator>Claus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 03:17:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>... and yes, product images are in 9/10 cases with american keyboard layout.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230; and yes, product images are in 9/10 cases with american keyboard layout.</p>
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		<title>By: Claus</title>
		<link>http://www.coderjournal.com/2008/05/when-dell-usability-engineering-goes-horrible-wrong/#comment-4553</link>
		<dc:creator>Claus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 03:16:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>US keyboard... notice the lack of "Alt Gr" and you might understand why.

Nothing wrong, your simply lack knowlegde about keyboards :p</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>US keyboard&#8230; notice the lack of &#8220;Alt Gr&#8221; and you might understand why.</p>
<p>Nothing wrong, your simply lack knowlegde about keyboards :p</p>
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		<title>By: DotNetKicks.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>DotNetKicks.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 15:07:40 +0000</pubDate>
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